Inside USA – Christianity in US politics – 11 Jul 08 – Part 2
The US is a deeply religious country. For almost three decades, the Christian right in the US has wielded considerable power in the political arena. Inside USA asks if Republican candidate John McCain will be able to harness that voting block in the same way George Bush did.
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Thats a laugh, Hillary supports gay marriage, so its double standards for that evangelical leader. Though that isn’t exactly true. Many christians I know approve of gay marriage, for financial and social, and not religious reasons. They believe that religion has no place in their. Least they still have their heads on straight.
I was pretty offended as an atheist when the pastor said and EVEN my atheist friends say helping the poor is essential, as if it is so SHOCKING and SUPRISING that atheists want to help the poor. Still, at least he included us.
Religion must end in all forms accept Morality. Morality has nothing to do with religion and can be separated.Keep these delusional people out of office before we start W.W.3. Opps! It already started.
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Sorry, but the first paragraph is not true. Yes, some postings are dangerous, others are not. It depends how committed you are to advancing freedom
As for the 2nd paragraph which terrorists are you referring to? Hamas? Hezbollah? Al-Qaeda (which faction)? Taleban? Waziri Tribesmen? ETIM? etc (pls look them up before replying) Some yes, others no, others perhaps, its not that simple
As for the 3rd paragraph, I challenge you to prove the need for military intervention without emotive reasoning
Ya well any volunteering in the middle east through peaceful non violence will still get you killed.
They (terrorists) are not making any distinction between aid organizations and militarty organizations. Its just death to westerners and all those that support them.
If you don’t see the need for military intervention then you are very much blind.
You must have never picked up a history book, if your unwilling to do so then perhaps, instead of launching barbs at me, you could travel to countries that the US has left in ruins & volunteer in reconstruction & implementing democracy through peaceful means. Perhaps there you will learn there is a world beyond yourself
Finally, I would thank you for not lecturing me on the virtues of democracy, where I’m from we risk more for ACTUAL democracy than most plump, laz-e-boy bound Americans ever do
I find your reply to be both rude and arrogant.
It is a shame, I was hoping to understand the American religious right, instead I am subjected to shrill the arrogance of someone who DOES NOT CAREFULLY READ what I had take the time to write and who lives in a painfully simplistic world where that the US can do no wrong.
I think I will end this as I have my answer regarding the American religious right. A group so arrogant & unwilling to listen they have turned their backs on Christian teachings
The King James Bible is the best translation from the original Greek and Hebrew I suggest you read that one.
The other translations were either translated from the Latin which was translated from the Greek and Hebrew or you have the new easier to read Bibles like the NIV which is a complete misinterpretation of the words, editing what they felt it should say instead of what it does say.
I condemn acusations such as your comments, you sound like the terrorist not the peace keeper.
What threat?! Have you been living in a cave or something? Talk about ignorant…
“their cause” You seem to want to steriotype all Arabians to have the same ideology. Its only the terrorists that want us out of there.
The majority of the people are benefiting from our occupation not hurting. We’re there to topple the evil regimes not murder innocent people.
You forget were not over there to murder anyone, we are there to bring stability.
Saddam murdered alot of people as u stated and I’m sure he influenced even more deaths as a result of his regime. The only slaughter that is being done is by the terrorists.
You seem to have a vague understanding of the war on terror or even what a democracy is. Did you not know the USA is a peace keeping nation? That we allow freedoms that other nations only dream about.
The war’s design was and is to contain the threat to the USA and our allies.
What leads to democracy is the need for democracy. When people stand up for what they believe in despite heavy persecution including death.
Finally; what threat? The followers of Sayid Qutb are few & few between. Arab leaders Nasser, Mossadeq even Saddam were far removed from Jihadist teachings.
Osama’s own ideology in tatters, rejected by the Arab mainstream, they turned on the US out of desperation & outrage, to galvanise the Arab world to their cause
Sadly the US, led by the neo-cons, have generated more hostility amongst ordinary people than Osama could dream of. I Recommend “The Power of Nightmares” available on youtube
Regarding the body count; according to the Strassler family Center for Holocaust & Genocide Studies at Clark University Saddam killed approximately 200,000
In June 06 the Iraqi Health Ministry survey found the war & occupation was responsible for in excess of 400,000 deaths. This is the most conservative view, with the Opinion Research Business survey claiming over 1m deaths
The wickedness of this is staggering, I imagine a Christian would be compelled to condemn this slaughter unreservedly
Regardless of which edition of the Bible you keep, the spreading of death is despicable & the justification for such violence (WMDs) proved false.
The war’s design was to cut a swath through the Mid East from Kuwait to Turkey, projecting US power over the Arab states & to contain Iran. Democracy an afterthought at best
Self-determination, example & education is what leads to democracy. Imposition & death leads to resentment & a rejection of the ideal, & reform must once again start from zero
The proper translation is “thou shall not murder” its not speaking of killing in general.
More people have been killed and oppressed during Saddams occupation than the war now.
The last part of your comment has some truth to it, but its not the US that destroys the democracy, its only when its not wanted that it is destroyed.
Democracy is also being pushed because of the great human rights violations being done in these countries to its own citizens and their threat to the rest of us.
I suppose it depends of which particular translation you’re referring to and my Koine Greek isn’t up to scratch.
Thousands of US troops and a war waged failed to murder anyone? pls explain
More have been killed in the occupation of Iraq than Saddam had been responsible for & your President bears irrefutable responsibility for that.
Regarding democracy, its only used when convenient for US power projection, destroyed when it is not & the choice of ‘liberated’ govts are subject to US approval
Its, “thou shall not murder” and thats not something the bush administration is guilty of.
Were helping to end an oppresion and help establish a democracy not murder people, civilian causualties happen in every war.
Uaz31: You’re mad, Bush is a wicked man responsible for over half a million deaths in Iraq. “Thou shalt not kill” features somewhere in the bible as I recall.
What sane person would care about such minutia as abortion, stem cell research, gay marriage, etc in the face of such slaughter?
Furthermore, the neo-con’s corrupt ideological agenda has NOTHING to do with Christianity, Thank god Bush has dealt their credibility a fatal blow. See Leo Strauss’ ‘noble lies’ as a start.
Considering the alternative, the republican party has a much better understanding of what direction our country must strive towards.
We need more intelligent judges in the supreme courts…we have too many ignorant judges now that want to impose their bias views.
Nobody is perfect but I’m glad we live in a democratic society that gives us a voice and allows us to decide on the lesser evil, and thad be the republican party.
thank you for your advise. I did not realize that Bush was not a Republicans,nor was he the benefactors of their votes.& shares their views intended to marginalized the less fortunates amongs Americans. Getting kick backs to the weapon makers like Northrop Grunman;Lockheed Martin,etc for contributing to his campaigns.Now, most of the billions being spent in wars, are going to them. Electing ultra conservative Republican judges taking over the suprem court.
Try reading slower, I didn’t mention republicans, I was speaking of Mr. Bush.
You’re so right about this Uaz31,there can’t be a better case of a fanatical christian ignornant than yourself,& yours.How about the other Part of the Bible implying that the poor should not be stepped upon in favor of the rich? Jesus,the one Republicans & the so-called coservative claimed to be preaching about, died as a result of standiing up for the poor. The Reblicans are not for any of the issues you had mentioned above.Their true agendas is to control every one. They’re control freaks!
All religious nuts are fuckin’ crazy. We need another crusade.